NMSU faculty members have vocalized their concerns over staff and student safety on campus after an unidentified person interrupted a class in Domenici Hall last month.
On Sept. 16, 2021, Professor Jamie Bronstein’s history class was interrupted when a man stood up and demanded to speak to the class. While it remains unclear what the man wanted from the class or Professor Bronstien, Bronstein and others suspect he was a follower of controversial NMSU business professor and political activist, David Clements. Clements was relieved of his teaching duties in August 2021 for alleged employee misconduct.
Publisher’s Note: Kokopelli student editor Nicole Liverett reached out to David Clements twice for comment during the week preceding the publication of this story. Liverett emailed Clements on Wednesday, Sept. 29, at 4:35 p.m. and again on Thursday, Sept. 30, 2021, at 4:03 p.m. Ms. Liverett did not receive a reply from Mr. Clements, however, until Monday morning, Oct. 4, 2021, at 8:59 a.m., a full 119 minutes after this article was published.
Professor Bronstein told the classroom intruder she felt it was “out of order” for someone not affiliated with the university to address the class, and after a brief exchange the man reportedly exited the room.
One student from the class indicated the incident was unsettling. “It was weird. It was random. I seriously thought something bad was going to happen,” the student said. This same student, who asked not to be identified, also expressed concern over the safety of students on campus, since the man was not a known student of NMSU.
Another student who was present when the encounter occurred said, “[The intruder] walked in, got all of our attention, and it seemed very urgent that he needed to talk to us about something.” This student, who also asked not to be identified, expressed that while NMSU is an open campus, the encounter was “strange.”
Two days before the Domenici Hall incident, Clements posted Bronstein’s photo and email address on his Telegram social media channel along with the note, “[Bronstein] is desperate for pen pals.” Clements also accused Bronstein of being a “communist,” among other things, and asked his 134K subscribers for “help to carry the load.” Bronstein subsequently received upwards of 300 emails, some of which were threatening in nature. Bronstein mentioned in an interview with Kokopelli that students have also been harassed by Clements and his followers.
Additionally, Bronstein has said that Clements’ characterizations of her are false, and indicated she did not want to give the unidentified man an opportunity to spread misinformation. “I didn’t want the classroom intruder to have the floor. I thought that this is the last thing I need is to have someone coming in and making insane allegations about a professor,” Bronstein said.
According to a report filed with the NMSU Police Department on the same day the incident occurred, the intruder admitted he was not affiliated with NMSU, although his identity and reasons for visiting Bronstein’s classroom are unknown. The man is described in the report as a white male in his 20s or 30s wearing a blue shirt and khaki pants or shorts.
As of Oct. 4, 2021, no charges have been filed against the mystery man; however, according to Interim Deputy Chief Justin Dunivan of the NMSU police department, the threatening emails sent to Bronstein have been investigated. “We worked, in this case, with our partners — our regional partners — to make sure that we are protecting everyone.”
Dunivan encouraged students to report anything suspicious they see around campus. “If you see something, say something,” Dunivan said. He also recommended that students call 911 if they ever feel unsafe.
Bronstein expressed her concern over student and faculty safety. “I think the university maybe needs to strengthen its policies around harassment and especially make it clear that if students have problems with a faculty member, they have somewhere to go because I think that’s not clear,” Bronstein said.
Following the Sept. 16 incident, some faculty members have raised concerns over the safety of everyone on campus, and have expressed disappointment in the school’s administration over a perceived lack of transparency regarding campus safety issues. More specifically, some faculty members have been critical of President Floros for not notifying students of the Sept. 16 incident. Floros sent an email to faculty and staff in which he referenced a “classroom disruption,” but students were not formally apprised of the incident.
Since then, the NMSU Faculty Senate has released a resolution of no-confidence in the president and provost. Bronstein is one of the resolution’s sponsors.
In this document, the Faculty Senate calls for the removal of President John Floros and Provost Carol Parker. Kokopelli reached out to both President Floros and Provost Parker for comment, but did not hear back from either office.
The new resolution cites “safety and security concerns” on Page 17 as one of the reasons for the no-confidence vote. The document states: “Under these hostile work conditions, which contravene NMSU’s own prohibitions of bullying, hazing, and hostile misconduct, we find it nearly impossible to fulfill NMSU’s mission of fostering learning, inquiry, diversity and inclusion, social mobility, and service to the broader community.”
The resolution also cites a recent Las Cruces Sun-News article that specifically mentions Clements’ Telegram posts about Bronstein and the subsequent threatening emails she received.
Kokopelli reached out to David Clements via email for comment, but he did not respond.
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Publisher’s Note: Kokopelli student editor Nicole Liverett reached out to David Clements twice for comment during the week preceding the publication of this story. Liverett emailed Clements on Wednesday, Sept. 29, at 4:35 p.m. and again on Thursday, Sept. 30, 2021, at 4:03 p.m. Ms. Liverett did not receive a reply from Mr. Clements, however, until Monday morning, Oct. 4, 2021, at 8:59 a.m., a full 119 minutes after this article was published.
GO NICOLE! Proud of you for writing about this important issue. As a student, how can I feel safe on campus if random people walk into my class?? Or if a professor is “calling people out” to his followers??
This is crazy. I’m glad this prof is no longer teaching. The fact that his goons are all here in the comments and the fact that he wouldn’t comment on the article until after it was posted really says a lot. I’m glad that someone stepped up to write about this. Don’t let the crazies in the comments bring you down! This is what journalism is about!
All the Clements fans showing up to complain that there’s no clear link between the intruder and Clements’s call for Bronstein to be flamed are pretty funny, since the article literally says that we don’t know why the intruder intruded or what he intended to say. If you think the information presented in this article indicates that there is a link between Clements and the intruder, that’s an inference *you* made on your own. And if you made that inference without realizing it, that just shows how unbelievable it is that the way that guy showed up in Bronstein’s class like that is a coincidence. Y’all also illustrate nicely how easy it is for Clements to get a mob to show up for him.
How odd that this publication would take and amplify the bizarre fantasies of a faculty member who displays all the qualities of an obsessed paranoic. Bronstein has of course spent many hours of her spare time, or perhaps her faculty time, writing and filing multiple complaints to the New Mexico Bar Association against Professor Clements, all of which were dismissed. As a patroit hating, globalist worshipping marxist traitor, Bronstein is emotionally disturbed by the actions and the existence of us who love their country and love God. So much so that Bronstein hasn’t stopped at the Bar Association in her deranged campaign of hatred. She has also made a portfolio of complaints within the University. Bronstein is simply unable to continue living her sad misguided life in the knowledge Professor Clements is out there, living his as a patriot and Christian.
In normal times we’d feel sad for Bronstein and offer her prayer, support and light in the hope she would see her path leads into nothing but darkness.However in these turbulent times, Bronstein finds a small but influential support network of fellow travellers, she even manages to have her demented campaign of hatred pushed by this media outlet. However as we can see, the resultant article exposes itself, the author, the media site and Bronstein as sad gossip mongers obsessed in their shameful determination to smear Professor Clements by whatever fairy tale they can conjure. A review of the comments here shows you they failed. Every lie is being revealed. It should be abundantly clear by now that, there has been a change, people are awake and truth now wins every conflict against lies. Choose your team wisely!
Did I miss something? Some wacko Leftist teacher “suspects” David Clements and now the story is about him? Who writes this kind of garbage and passes it off as journalism? It is hard to fathom how badly our education system is failing America.
Well, I see “diversity and inclusion” only means if your opinion is diverse, you can’t be included. Prof. Clements Stands for freedom. Where is it on campus?
This is why I have a hard time believing anything I read. Do your research no matter what side of the spectrum your on. Your future depends on it. Professor Clements indeed did respond.
“ Here is the comment from me conveniently omitted by the Marxist journalist Nicole”Liverett:
“It appears you have no evidence that anyone that interacted with Jamie Bronstein is a follower of mine. I know nothing about the encounter, as I am not on campus.
It appears you are speculating over events and drawing inferences without doing your homework.
Now, you are asking whether I want to “assume responsibility” for someone’s actions I don’t know, over an event you have failed to describe in any way that demonstrates my involvement.
Ms. Bronstein has made herself a very public and divisive figure by attacking me on social media and at the university.
She filed a frivolous complaint against me with the State Bar that was just dismissed….
Have you reported on that?
The public is aware of her frivolous and mean-spirited actions. The question you should be asking is what personal responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for her actions in angering the public.
That I was suspended for standing up for medical freedom for students and faculty, and yet you’ve decided to avoid that topic to focus on Ms. Bronstein’s alleged victimhood shows an inherent bias.
I have been the recipient of threats and/or harassment made by the public, students, and NMSU faculty. What responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for the abuses I’ve suffered?
Nicole, your journalism department is the epitome of bias, and is complicit in the fear culture at NMSU.
Do better.”
“Marxist journalist Nicole Liverett.” LOL.
Everything David Clements does not agree with is “Marxist” or “communist.” It’s a tired, well-worn tactic. Didn’t they teach you about ad hominem arguments in law school, David? I love student journalism. I applaud Nicole Liverett for tackling a difficult issue guaranteed to garner emotional responses. I don’t think the problem here is Nicole’s reporting but David’s reluctance to engage in honest dialogue and debate.
David Clements clearly stoked public anger in regard to Professor Bronstein, and others, and the idea the classroom intruder was linked to Clement’s activities in this regard is a reasonable inference. In time it may turn out to be untrue, yes. I guess we will see. Nonetheless, pushing David to consider the potential unintended implications of his public utterances does not seem like an unreasonable idea…what is unreasonable is David’s failure to recognize his actions may, indeed, have consequences he did or did not foresee.
Why engage with a “journalist” who writes a completely fabricated story? However he did engage. They chose not to include his remarks.
Wake up to reality. You and the Marxists you defend are the nut jobs. Standing up for freedom and liberty make Professor Clements a real American. Maybe you need a few good history lessons but I don’t think you’ll get it at NMU so let the real patriots of this nation educate you.
Clement’s direct quote omitted by this article:
Here is the comment from me conveniently omitted by the Marxist journalist Nicole Liverett:
“It appears you have no evidence that anyone that interacted with Jamie Bronstein is a follower of mine. I know nothing about the encounter, as I am not on campus.
It appears you are speculating over events and drawing inferences without doing your homework.
Now, you are asking whether I want to “assume responsibility” for someone’s actions I don’t know, over an event you have failed to describe in any way that demonstrates my involvement.
Ms. Bronstein has made herself a very public and divisive figure by attacking me on social media and at the university.
She filed a frivolous complaint against me with the State Bar that was just dismissed….
Have you reported on that?
The public is aware of her frivolous and mean-spirited actions. The question you should be asking is what personal responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for her actions in angering the public.
That I was suspended for standing up for medical freedom for students and faculty, and yet you’ve decided to avoid that topic to focus on Ms. Bronstein’s alleged victimhood shows an inherent bias.
I have been the recipient of threats and/or harassment made by the public, students, and NMSU faculty. What responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for the abuses I’ve suffered?
Nicole, your journalism department is the epitome of bias, and is complicit in the fear culture at NMSU.
Do better.”
Professor Clements has NEVER encouraged nor even hinted at promoting violence. And how Clements is getting dragged through the mud over another persons actions that has nothing to do with him is beyond comprehension. It’s precisely sloppy journalism mixed with propaganda and outright lies present in this article that has turned the people in this country away from trusting mainstream news.
Bronstein’s direct quote omitted in this article:
“Here is the comment from me conveniently omitted by the Marxist journalist Nicole Liverett:
“It appears you have no evidence that anyone that interacted with Jamie Bronstein is a follower of mine. I know nothing about the encounter, as I am not on campus.
It appears you are speculating over events and drawing inferences without doing your homework.
Now, you are asking whether I want to “assume responsibility” for someone’s actions I don’t know, over an event you have failed to describe in any way that demonstrates my involvement.
Ms. Bronstein has made herself a very public and divisive figure by attacking me on social media and at the university.
She filed a frivolous complaint against me with the State Bar that was just dismissed….
Have you reported on that?
The public is aware of her frivolous and mean-spirited actions. The question you should be asking is what personal responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for her actions in angering the public.
That I was suspended for standing up for medical freedom for students and faculty, and yet you’ve decided to avoid that topic to focus on Ms. Bronstein’s alleged victimhood shows an inherent bias.
I have been the recipient of threats and/or harassment made by the public, students, and NMSU faculty. What responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for the abuses I’ve suffered?
Nicole, your journalism department is the epitome of bias, and is complicit in the fear culture at NMSU.
Do better.”
I was able to find a response to this article on Telegram from Professor Clements:
“Here is the comment from me conveniently omitted by the Marxist journalist Nicole Liverett:
“It appears you have no evidence that anyone that interacted with Jamie Bronstein is a follower of mine. I know nothing about the encounter, as I am not on campus.
It appears you are speculating over events and drawing inferences without doing your homework.
Now, you are asking whether I want to “assume responsibility” for someone’s actions I don’t know, over an event you have failed to describe in any way that demonstrates my involvement.
Ms. Bronstein has made herself a very public and divisive figure by attacking me on social media and at the university.
She filed a frivolous complaint against me with the State Bar that was just dismissed….
Have you reported on that?
The public is aware of her frivolous and mean-spirited actions. The question you should be asking is what personal responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for her actions in angering the public.
That I was suspended for standing up for medical freedom for students and faculty, and yet you’ve decided to avoid that topic to focus on Ms. Bronstein’s alleged victimhood shows an inherent bias.
I have been the recipient of threats and/or harassment made by the public, students, and NMSU faculty. What responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for the abuses I’ve suffered?
Nicole, your journalism department is the epitome of bias, and is complicit in the fear culture at NMSU.
Do better.”
Hey Lily. Wake up to reality. You and the Marxists you defend are the nut jobs. Standing up for freedom and liberty make Professor Clements a real American. Maybe you need a few good history lessons but I don’t think you’ll get it at NMU so let the real patriots of this nation educate you.
Paul please step out of your Echo chamber…..
No one would have ever known of Professor Bronstein had she not attempted to bully, harass, & & intimidate Professor Clements over his principled stand against the non science based mask mandates, & unconstitutional mandatory vaccination policies of President Flores & NMSU Administrators. No mention in the article of Bronstein’s recruitment of fellow Professors to join in the bullying, intimidation, & harassment of Professor Clements to create a hostile work environment.
A real Journalist would have asked Bronstien why she thought the classroom intruder was there to make insane allegations against a Professor, which Professor , & why she made that assumption without hearing what he had to say. Perhaps Nicole Liverett does not value the truth, but rather follows the Main Stream Media’s current standard of Marxist Journalism. Professor Clements is an award winning Educator , a Patriot, a truth teller, a Christian and an enemy of the tyrants who are trying to steal, & destroy this Country! No surprise he is targeted by Liverett, Bronstein, & President Flores.
Godless commies.
Hey commies. Why do you keep deleting my comment? Truth is difficult to follow. I understand
There you go again! Why do university communists not let free people speak truth? Just want to know. Lol
Hey commies. Why did you take my comment down? Too much truth? Only publish the comments that fit your narrative?
The very premise of the article is unfounded with no evidence connecting this supposed incident with a student to this Professor Clements. Everything that follows is obvious donkey turds if you don’t have factual basis to begin the article. Colleges are worthless in the current day.
By moderation do you mean censorship?
I wrote a comment and it was scrubbed. Why? You’re as bad as Fakebook. I’ll spread the word of your university’s denial of free speech. No worries. Your university will eventually feel the heat.
Maybe the professor set this little “show” up herself. Doubt anyone will every find the “intruder.”
“Paul”, if that’s “their” real name, is certainly carrying water for Bronstein and the liberal Illuminati. Nice work, Paul. Can I tell you about Jesus? He died as the sacrifice for your sins and was raised that you might be justified or “put right” with God. Faith in Him is all that really matters. Some sophomoric tiff between students/faculty/administrators matters not in the Big Picture. Trust Jesus. I am praying for you, for Dr. Bronstein, and for a school that used to be a decent place to get an education
What struck me about this article is the remark, “(a) student, who also asked not to be identified, expressed that while NMSU is an open campus, the encounter was “strange.”
I offer that, in the treatment of Professor Clements l, “open campus” has a decided ring of irony. When a professor is shunted from his classes for holding a politically incorrect position, there’s nothing open about this campus.
Here is the comment from me conveniently omitted by the Marxist journalist Nicole Liverett:
“It appears you have no evidence that anyone that interacted with Jamie Bronstein is a follower of mine. I know nothing about the encounter, as I am not on campus.
It appears you are speculating over events and drawing inferences without doing your homework.
Now, you are asking whether I want to “assume responsibility” for someone’s actions I don’t know, over an event you have failed to describe in any way that demonstrates my involvement.
Ms. Bronstein has made herself a very public and divisive figure by attacking me on social media and at the university.
She filed a frivolous complaint against me with the State Bar that was just dismissed….
Have you reported on that?
The public is aware of her frivolous and mean-spirited actions. The question you should be asking is what personal responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for her actions in angering the public.
That I was suspended for standing up for medical freedom for students and faculty, and yet you’ve decided to avoid that topic to focus on Ms. Bronstein’s alleged victimhood shows an inherent bias.
I have been the recipient of threats and/or harassment made by the public, students, and NMSU faculty. What responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for the abuses I’ve suffered?
Nicole, your journalism department is the epitome of bias, and is complicit in the fear culture at NMSU.
Do better.”
Is it true that comment below is from Prof. Clements himself?
I am sure you wouldn’t unpublish it, would you:
“It appears you have no evidence that anyone that interacted with Jamie Bronstein is a follower of mine. I know nothing about the encounter, as I am not on campus.
It appears you are speculating over events and drawing inferences without doing your homework.
Now, you are asking whether I want to “assume responsibility” for someone’s actions I don’t know, over an event you have failed to describe in any way that demonstrates my involvement.
Ms. Bronstein has made herself a very public and divisive figure by attacking me on social media and at the university.
She filed a frivolous complaint against me with the State Bar that was just dismissed….
Have you reported on that?
The public is aware of her frivolous and mean-spirited actions. The question you should be asking is what personal responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for her actions in angering the public.
That I was suspended for standing up for medical freedom for students and faculty, and yet you’ve decided to avoid that topic to focus on Ms. Bronstein’s alleged victimhood shows an inherent bias.
I have been the recipient of threats and/or harassment made by the public, students, and NMSU faculty. What responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for the abuses I’ve suffered?
Nicole, your journalism department is the epitome of bias, and is complicit in the fear culture at NMSU.
Do better.”
Correction
Article should read:
“Safety concerns arise…” on Sept. 16, 2021 after Professor Jamie Bronstein’s history class was interrupted when a man stood up and demanded to speak to the class. Ms. Bronstein asked the man to leave, saying, “I didn’t want the classroom intruder to have the floor. I thought that this is the last thing I need is to have someone coming in and making insane allegations about a professor,” Bronstein said.
“I think the university maybe needs to strengthen its policies around harassment and especially make it clear that if students have problems with a faculty member, they have somewhere to go because I think that’s not clear,” Bronstein said.
Bronstein and others suspect he (intruder) was a follower of controversial NMSU business professor and political activist, David Clements. Clements, an experienced trial lawyer, Professor in the Business School (Law) and recent recipient of NMSU’s top-teaching award in the Business School was relieved of his teaching duties in August 2021 for alleged employee misconduct. The University alleges he was relieved “…for refusing to wear a mask indoors. Clements also refused to enforce NMSU mask-wearing policies in his classroom.”
For some context to the dilemma, Ms Bronstein has filed numerous complaints against Prof. Clements with the University (pending), the State Bar (dismissed), and recently sponsored a “resolution of no-confidence in the president and provost” of NMSU citing “safety and security concerns” for Professor Clements position and public defense of Individual and Health Sovereignty rights as granted by the U. S. Bill of Rights and the U.S. Constitution
What does Ms. Bronstein fear from Mr. Clements, her President, Provost, students, faculty members and citizens of NM to go to such dramatic lengths to stifle public and Constitutionally protected speech…yet won’t allow it in her own classroom?
Is this now the state of education at our public universities? I hope not. We can do better.
Now that article is nicely written and points out the obvious bias in the “reporters” article.
The article states: “Since then, the NMSU Faculty Senate has released a resolution of no-confidence in the president and provost.” I think it’s more accurate to say eight NMSU Faculty Senators have introduced a resolution of no-confidence. It now goes to a sub-committee and then, maybe, will be voted on later by the Faculty Senate body.
The article states: “In this document, the Faculty Senate calls for the removal of President John Floros and Provost Carol Parker.” I think its more accurate to say eight Faculty Senate members have called for the removal of President Floros and Provost Parker. The Faculty Senate itself hasn’t voted on this resolution yet.
“It appears you have no evidence that anyone that interacted with Jamie Bronstein is a follower of mine. I know nothing about the encounter, as I am not on campus.
It appears you are speculating over events and drawing inferences without doing your homework.
Now, you are asking whether I want to “assume responsibility” for someone’s actions I don’t know, over an event you have failed to describe in any way that demonstrates my involvement.
Ms. Bronstein has made herself a very public and divisive figure by attacking me on social media and at the university.
She filed a frivolous complaint against me with the State Bar that was just dismissed….
Have you reported on that?
The public is aware of her frivolous and mean-spirited actions. The question you should be asking is what personal responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for her actions in angering the public.
That I was suspended for standing up for medical freedom for students and faculty, and yet you’ve decided to avoid that topic to focus on Ms. Bronstein’s alleged victimhood shows an inherent bias.
I have been the recipient of threats and/or harassment made by the public, students, and NMSU faculty. What responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for the abuses I’ve suffered?
Nicole, your journalism department is the epitome of bias, and is complicit in the fear culture at NMSU.
Do better.”
I see Clements’ cult has followed him to this article. The guy is a grade A nut job and his actions were clearly the cause of substantial damage to the university. He has tied his sinking ship to Mike Lindell. I hope he is fleecing the pillow king for as much as he can because this is the last job Clements is going to have.
Name. The. Damage. To. NMSU. In. words.
Then name the reputation or attention NMSU had at any time before this incident.
Eyes on.
Hey Lily the commie Who is the real nut job? Not truth tellers but liars
Your comment shows a lack of understanding and disrespectful not only to yourself but to others as well.
From Clements…..
Here is the comment from me conveniently omitted by the Marxist journalist Nicole Liverett:
“It appears you have no evidence that anyone that interacted with Jamie Bronstein is a follower of mine. I know nothing about the encounter, as I am not on campus.
It appears you are speculating over events and drawing inferences without doing your homework.
Now, you are asking whether I want to “assume responsibility” for someone’s actions I don’t know, over an event you have failed to describe in any way that demonstrates my involvement.
Ms. Bronstein has made herself a very public and divisive figure by attacking me on social media and at the university.
She filed a frivolous complaint against me with the State Bar that was just dismissed….
Have you reported on that?
The public is aware of her frivolous and mean-spirited actions. The question you should be asking is what personal responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for her actions in angering the public.
That I was suspended for standing up for medical freedom for students and faculty, and yet you’ve decided to avoid that topic to focus on Ms. Bronstein’s alleged victimhood shows an inherent bias.
I have been the recipient of threats and/or harassment made by the public, students, and NMSU faculty. What responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for the abuses I’ve suffered?
Nicole, your journalism department is the epitome of bias, and is complicit in the fear culture at NMSU.
Do better.”
You don’t remember THIS comment? “It appears you have no evidence that anyone that interacted with Jamie Bronstein is a follower of mine. I know nothing about the encounter, as I am not on campus.
It appears you are speculating over events and drawing inferences without doing your homework.
Now, you are asking whether I want to “assume responsibility” for someone’s actions I don’t know, over an event you have failed to describe in any way that demonstrates my involvement.
Ms. Bronstein has made herself a very public and divisive figure by attacking me on social media and at the university.
She filed a frivolous complaint against me with the State Bar that was just dismissed….
Have you reported on that?
The public is aware of her frivolous and mean-spirited actions. The question you should be asking is what personal responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for her actions in angering the public.
That I was suspended for standing up for medical freedom for students and faculty, and yet you’ve decided to avoid that topic to focus on Ms. Bronstein’s alleged victimhood shows an inherent bias.
I have been the recipient of threats and/or harassment made by the public, students, and NMSU faculty. What responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for the abuses I’ve suffered?
In fact, Professor Clements was not terminated in August. The dishonesty of this article is disgusting. Our educational system is corrupt and overtly promotes anti-American, Marxist propaganda. Shame on NMSU.
Where does it say Clements was “terminated”? It doesn’t. Reading comprehension.
Where is the evidence that anyone that interacted with Jamie Bronstein is a follower of DK Clements. Paul speculating over events and drawing inferences without doing your homework.
Now, you are asking whether DK Clements to “assume responsibility” for someone’s actions he doesn’t know, over an event that has failed to describe in any way that demonstrates his involvement.
Ms. Bronstein has made herself a very public and divisive figure by attacking DK Clements on social media and at the university.
She filed a frivolous complaint against him with the State Bar that was just dismissed….
Has that been reported on?
The public are aware of her frivolous and mean-spirited actions. The question that should be asked is what personal responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for her actions in angering the public.
That DK Clements was suspended for standing up for medical freedom for students and faculty, and yet it was decided to avoid that topic to focus on Ms. Bronstein’s “alleged victimhood” shows an inherent bias.
DK Clements has been the recipient of threats and/or harassment made by the public, students, and NMSU faculty. What responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for these abuses suffered?
This is the epitome of bias, and is complicit in the fear culture at NMSU.
Btw Paul, you didn’t include your surname
Hey Lily. Wake up to reality. You and the Marxists you defend are the nut jobs. Standing up for freedoms and liberty makes Professor Clements a real American. Maybe you need a few good history lessons on truth but I don’t think you’ll get the at NMU so let the real patriots of this country educate you.
So far this unidentifiable man has no attachment to professor Clements. How does any reasonable person tie the two together? They don’t. It fits your narrative. You people are stupid.
Clements doxxes professor on social media and invites fans to harass her. Within hours professor receives 300 threatening emails and two days later weird dude shows up in her class uninvited and aggressively demands to speak to students. This is Clements’ pattern – weaponize fans and hide behind plausible deniability. This isn’t the first time he’s done it. All fun and games until someone gets hurt. Talk about stupid.
Do you not know that Bornstein first lead a NMSU defamation (key word) campaign on UNMS email servers (whoops), doxxed he and his family (archived), filed complaints with the NM State Bar ( archived / dismissed) and continued the coordinated (key word – who else participated?) defamation campaign on social media platforms (digital records?) before he said anything on his platforms? Of course you do not. The courts do though.
SCREEN SHOT 3:41 AM CST 10/5/2021
Ms. Bronstein has made herself a very public and divisive figure by attacking DK Clements on social media and at the university.
She filed a frivolous complaint against him with the State Bar that was just dismissed….
Has that been reported on?
The public are aware of her frivolous and mean-spirited actions. The question that should be asked is what personal responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for her actions in angering the public.
That DK Clements was suspended for standing up for medical freedom for students and faculty, and yet it was decided to avoid that topic to focus on Ms. Bronstein’s “alleged victimhood” shows an inherent bias.
DK Clements has been the recipient of threats and/or harassment made by the public, students, and NMSU faculty. What responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for these abuses suffered?
This is the epitome of bias, and is complicit in the fear culture at NMSU.
Btw Paul, you didn’t include your surname
This is a strange article. No one was harmed or was threatened. This is why people use the term “snowflakes.” Also Professor David Clements was wrongfully brought into the article as he had nothing to do with the incident. Seems like the university is grasping at straws to justify his termination, which is not justifiable. He was a stellar law professor and was fired for not wearing a mask. Pathetic!
Actually, according to the article, the professor received “upwards of 300 emails, some of which were THREATENING in nature.” It also says police investigated the emails, and the college president issued a letter to the entire staff about the classroom incident. Did you read all 300 emails? I’m sure the police did. I’m guessing the administration and the police and the professor who was threatened and the faculty senate know a whole lot more about what’s going on than you do. And Clements was not a “stellar” professor. Stellar professors don’t do what he’s doing. Pathetic!
Do you not understand that every single post she ever made, on every email, social media and most importantly, on NMSU servers, in her life, are digitally archived? Forever. How do you not know this? And we have so much more now. And now we have you, ‘Paul’. Thanks. Will NMSU stand at the end of this? Quien sabe? Make deals, or not. Who cares. Look fwd to it. We’re taking it all down. Legally
You are so right!
Receiving the top teaching award is so not stellar. In today’s world (NSMU WORLD), It’s a call for termination1
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It would be helpful to hear David’s side of the story! This is his response to the writer of this article.
Here is the comment from me conveniently omitted by the Marxist journalist Nicole Liverett:
“It appears you have no evidence that anyone that interacted with Jamie Bronstein is a follower of mine. I know nothing about the encounter, as I am not on campus.
It appears you are speculating over events and drawing inferences without doing your homework.
Now, you are asking whether I want to “assume responsibility” for someone’s actions I don’t know, over an event you have failed to describe in any way that demonstrates my involvement.
Ms. Bronstein has made herself a very public and divisive figure by attacking me on social media and at the university.
She filed a frivolous complaint against me with the State Bar that was just dismissed….
Have you reported on that?
The public is aware of her frivolous and mean-spirited actions. The question you should be asking is what personal responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for her actions in angering the public.
That I was suspended for standing up for medical freedom for students and faculty, and yet you’ve decided to avoid that topic to focus on Ms. Bronstein’s alleged victimhood shows an inherent bias.
I have been the recipient of threats and/or harassment made by the public, students, and NMSU faculty. What responsibility does Ms. Bronstein have for the abuses I’ve suffered?
Nicole, your journalism department is the epitome of bias, and is complicit in the fear culture at NMSU.
Do better.”
Hey Paul. Sounds like you’re grasping at straws, too. Are you aware that each of these “hack” individuals you’re trying to defend, up to and including Bronstein have all filed official “complaints” against Professor Clements, and they’ve all been dropped? That would be odd, if they actually had held any water…none of them did.
It’s also quite interesting that you seem to be about the only repeat “individual” on here attempting to defend a bunch of communist hacks. Are you, yourself a communist hack, Paul? Sure would appear that you’re aligning yourself in that matter, Paul. Keep exposing yourself. Everyone sees you for who you really are. Keep dumping your cups of water onto the wildfire…it’s working out so well.
Exactly. They are clearly looking to justify their bigoted hatred for thoughts and ideals that do not align with their own.